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Stepancic, Teodora: A O  |  F G (Another Timbre)

Collaborating with the ensemble Ordinary Affects, Serbian-born composer and pianist Stepančić records two introspective and spacious works that explore sonic stillness, harmonic resonance, and gradual transformation, blending Wandelweiser aesthetics with personal influences from Orthodox choral traditions, New York experimentalism, and theatrical composition.
 

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Jordan Dykstra-viola

Laura Cetilia-violoncello

Douglas Farrand-trumpet

Luke Martin-electric guitar

J.P.A. Falzone-Fender Rhodes, keyboard

Teodora Stepancic-piano, keyboard


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Label: Another Timbre
Catalog ID: at233
Squidco Product Code: 35802

Format: CD
Condition: New
Released: 2025
Country: UK
Packaging: Cardboard Gatefold
Recorded at Dimenna Center, in NYC, in July, 2023, by Jeremy Tressler.

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"Two gorgeous ensemble works by the Serbian-born composer played by Ordinary Affects. Already reviewed in Bandcamp's Best of January 2025: "discrete instrumental layers interrupted by silence and unspooling as parallel sonic strips...wonderfully unsettling.... acoustic colours seemingly radiating from feedback in arcing curves that overlap, recede, and blossom."-Peter Margasak



Another Timbre Interview with Teodora Stepančić


You've appeared on Another Timbre before as a pianist (on the excellent CD of Mark R Taylor's piano music), but not previously as a composer. What is the balance between instrumentalist and composer in your activities as a musician? And do they complement each other usefully, or are they just very different practices?

My practices as composer, pianist, and to add also as curator, are intertwined and complement each other. I love performing in my own pieces, working closely with other musicians, and performing and programming pieces by friends and colleagues. I've been curating a concert series in Brooklyn for the past few years where I get to present music by people whose work I love. And I also work as a vocal accompanist at a music school - even when I play music that's very different from what I write and listen to, it is part of the same practice for me. It always includes collaboration. When I play solo, like on Mark R Taylor's CD, I try to collaborate with the composer. The idea for that album came after I programmed and performed Mark's music at many concerts, because I wanted it to be heard, and I was happy that we could work on those recordings together, sending him material and hearing his feedback.


Great, can we go further back and find out a bit about your life before you went to the States? Am I right that you were born in Serbia? I know nothing about music in Serbia; were you from a musical family, and how much contemporary music is played there?

I was born and raised in Belgrade. There I attended music and ballet schools and later studied piano and composition at the University of Music. My mother is solfege teacher and my uncle was acclaimed Yugoslavian concert and opera tenor, my sister is a violist, so I grew up with mostly classical music.

The contemporary music scene in Serbia is definitely more vibrant now, than when I was living there. When I was a student, with a group of friends, I organized concerts of our music, festivals and collaborations with art students from other universities in the Balkans. Still, in the 90s and early 2000s, it felt like everybody was leaving. Also, there was a war happening. So, I left as well.

In my 20s, I moved to the Netherlands where I continued my composition studies in The Hague. In the 10 years of living there, I was very active as performer of new music, music theater and contemporary opera, as well as composer. I am still one of the pianists of Ensemble Modelo62, based in The Hague, and I created several other experimental music groups there. Then I left again, this time to Brooklyn, almost 10 years ago.


Why did you decide to move to the USA, and New York in particular? And has it been easy to establish yourself in what is already a very busy and active place for contemporary music?

It was time for me to move again, and I felt very brave at the time. Brooklyn really is a great place! It is full of life. It was another challenging immigration story for me, but worth it.

New York is a very active and busy place, but when I moved here, there was not so much happening in the world of music that I am working with. I started organizing concerts myself, and eventually I created the Piano+ concert series in 2017, which I still organize. Our audience slowly became our community and friends, more and more people would perform with us, and then I formed LCollective. I feel that something that is about sharing music without judgement, was much needed in a place where things can get very competitive and stressful. In that sense, I wouldn't talk only about establishing myself, but about adding a space and possibility for music happenings that are open, collaborative and gentle. As a composer, I don't always feel that I fit in established contemporary music scenes, so competing in those spaces does not bother me that much - and I don't want to compete anyway.


The two pieces on the album date from 5 years apart, yet sound like they belong together. How did they each come about, and were they conceived as a pair? And were they both written for Ordinary Affects originally?

Yes, both were written for Ordinary Affects. FG is more open and has another version for a bigger ensemble while OA has pretty fixed instrumentation. OA are the initials of the ensemble for which it is written and FG of my child to whom it is dedicated.

OA was commissioned by Ordinary Affects in 2018 and performed in Boston where I worked on it with the ensemble. I wrote FG in 2023, for this album release, which was supported by NYFA Women's Fund for Music. So, I knew they will be together on a CD, but didn't try to make them a pair.

The two pieces were written in very different times and circumstances; one pre-pandemic, only 3 years after I immigrated to the US; the other in my first year postpartum, with a one-year-old, after surviving a severe mental illness episode and everything that happened in between. So, in a way, they feel very distant from each other for me. My approaches to form and material, as well as the music material itself are quite different. But I feel too that they fit together and have some things in common. The performance by the same ensemble helps, they have their unique sound. And, accidentally (or not), one piece begins with C7 chord, while the other ends with it, and one piece ends with a major second f-g, and the other is called FG and has a whole section with only those two notes. They are almost the same length - as most of my pieces. I think, 25-30 minutes is my length (for now); it allows the music to be slow paced and still feel like a piece that one can "hold".


They're both lovely pieces. Aspects of the music - the (generally) low volume, stretches of silence etc - will be familiar to anyone who has listened to a lot of Wandelweiser music, but there are things in both pieces that were (for me at least) unexpected or surprising. Could you tell us about your relationship to Wandelweiser - both past and present?

My main connection with Wandelweiser music is through performing it. Especially in the past 12 years, I performed many pieces by Wandelweiser composers and participated in Klangraum as composer/performer several times. Recently I recorded a CD with piano pieces by Anastassis Philippakopoulos that was released on EWR, and with my trio with Assaf Gidron and Martin Lorenz we recorded pieces by Michael Pisaro and Jurg Frey. I regularly curate Wandelweiser and music connected to it on my Piano+ concert series.

I was always interested in music that doesn't try to draw attention to itself, and that is intentional and focused, so when I encountered music from Wandelweiser composers, it made sense. My own aesthetics are also influenced by my experience with Byzantine and Orthodox vocal and choral traditions - I sang in several choirs in Sebia - as well as New York experimental music of the 60s and 70's, especially Oliveros, Cage and Feldman. I was also influenced by Kagel's theatrical music, during my school years in The Hague this was a strong interest of mine, and many of my works have theatrical elements in them.


I'm taken with the idea of 'music that doesn't try to draw attention to itself', especially in an age when so much stuff seems to be shouting for our attention, online and elsewhere. Could you say a bit more about how you work - and can survive - in this way in such a strident and commercialised environment?

Currently I work in a music school and am not trying to survive from my music - with the occasional grants or commissions. Exactly because there is so much happening around, I am trying not to compete with it or to replace anything or to get heard over other things. In my compositions I hold space for accidental sounds, and try to blur the distinction between a work and its environment. I want to open windows into overlapping perspectives on experience and distorted sense of place and time, and what I call parallel realities. I ask myself: How much do I need to add to everything that I hear?


Artist Biographies

"Jordan Dykstra (b. 1985, Sioux City, Iowa) is a Brooklyn-based violist and composer exploring the performer-composer-listener relationship through the incorporation of conceptual, graphic, and text-based elements. In 2007 he moved to Portland, OR and became involved in the experimental music scene in the Pacific NW. Aside from performing and recording with individuals and bands - including Dirty Projectors, A Winged Victory for the Sullen with Hildur Guðnadóttir, Atlas Sound, and Valet - he worked at Marriage Records and Publishing House. In 2014 he received a Career Opportunity Grant from the Oregon Arts Commission to apprentice with Daníel Bjarnason, composer and conductor of the Icelandic Symphony Orchestra, in Reykjavík, Iceland. He received his BFA in 2016 under Michael Pisaro, Ulrich Krieger, and Wolfgang von Schweinitz at the California Institute of the Arts in Los Angeles. In 2018 he received his MA in Experimental Composition from Wesleyan University in Connecticut where - under the mentorship of Alvin Lucier and astrophysicist Seth Redfield - his thesis explored connections between microtonality and the cosmic distance ladder. In 2019 he received a Cultural Grant from the Netherlands-America Foundation to compose "The Arrow of Time" and premiere the work with Reinier van Houdt in Amsterdam. In 2020 The Arrow of Time was listed as one of the best Modern Composition albums by The Wire and included in The Best Contemporary Classical Albums of 2020 by Bandcamp. As a media composer he has numerous credits including the films Blow the Man Down, Hail Satan?, It Comes At Night, and the 2019 Emmy winner for Outstanding Investigative Documentary Documenting Hate. His compositions for film have been heard at Cannes, Sundance, TriBeCa, TIFF, and the IFFR. His performance highlights include MOCA (CA), Harpa (Iceland), Musikfestval Bern (Switzerland), Ftarri (Tokyo), CHAFF (Brussels), Echo Bücher (Berlin), Syros Institute (Greece), Yale Union (OR), Big Ears Festival (TN), and the RISD Museum (RI). Recordings of his music (solo and collaborative) have been issued by New World Records, Domino, Milan, Marriage, Mexican Summer, K, Gilgongo, and Dykstra's own cottage industry label Editions Verde."

-Jordan Dykstra Website (https://www.jordandykstra.com/)
3/10/2025

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"Cellist and electronic musician Laura Cetilia is a performer, composer, educator, and presenter. A daughter of mixed heritage, she is at home with in-betweeness. As a composer, her music has been described as "unorthodox loveliness" by the Boston Globe and and her debut solo album was hailed as "alternately penetrating and atmospheric" in Sequenza 21. The Grove Dictionary of American Music describes her electroacoustic duo Mem1 as a "complex cybernetic entity" that "understands its music as a feedback loop between the past and present." Mem1 has held artist residencies and toured extensively throughout the U.S. and Europe. In her viola/cello duo, Suna No Onna, she has worked closely with and premiered works by composers André Cormier, Jürg Frey and Antoine Beuger, among others. As a product of the now-dwindling public school music program, Laura believes in the right to accessible music education and is a Resident Musician at Community MusicWorks, a non-profit organization that provides free after-school music education programs for children in urban neighborhoods of Providence, RI. There she teaches cello, is co-director of the media lab and the curator of the Ars Subtilior experimental music series. She is also a proud mother of one."

-Laura Cetilia Website (http://laura.cetilia.org/about/)
3/10/2025

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"Douglas Farrand is a NJ-based composer and musician who works in experimental music, popular education, and place-based organizing. He is concerned with developing practices that invite us to explore our myriad processes of listening and embody a collective investigation of place, community, and personhood. He has 10 years of practice working collaboratively with different creative groups in many contexts including experimental music, youth education, and the application of sound and listening practices to pedagogy and community organizing.

Douglas works in Orange, NJ as the Music City Co-Director with the University of Orange, a people's free school and popular education center, and as Managing Director of the HUUB, a community campus. Previously he founded and directed Sonic Explorations, a free music education program for young people in Orange's east ward, where he developed curricula combining Deep Listening and Restoration Urbanism for elementary school students.

As a composer and musician, Douglas is a founding member of LCollective, a Brooklyn-based experimental music collective, alongside Teodora Stepancic, Assaf Gidron, Jesse Greenberg, and Matt Lau. He has worked closely with percussionists Ryan Packard (Stockholm) and Christian Smith (The Hague), filmmakers Madison Brookshire (Los Angeles) and Kelsey White (NYC), composer and flautist Dr. Margaux Simmons (Vermont), bassists Jeff Weston and Rachel Mangold (Pittsburgh), and sound and visual artists Ben Owen (NYC) and Lucía Rodriguez (CDMX).

Douglas Farrand received a 2025 Fellowship from the New Jersey State Council on the Arts. In 2020 he was an artist-in-residence at the Co-Incidence Festival in Somerville, MA. His music and performances have been included on tape, CD, and digital releases on labels including Motor Image Recordings, Love Records, Another Timbre, and Suppedaneum.

Douglas's recent performances include Union Docs, SUNY Binghamton, and Lost Bag (Providence RI) as a part of a four city tour with Madison Brookshire and LCollective, annual performances at the Verbatim Text and Sound Expo in the Catskills, the Cleveland Re:Sound Festival, and performances of his long-standing collaboration with Christian Smith, discrete species, at Helicopter Studios in the Hague and Infinity Experimental in Bulgaria.

Douglas has studied trumpet and composition privately with Craig Shepard, composition at Oberlin Conservatory with Josh Levine and Ash Fure, and shorter term but formative studies in music from Chaya Czernowin, Reiko Füting and Michael Pisaro. He was a Next City Vanguard Fellow in 2019 and a participant in the Center for Community Leadership Advanced Organizing Seminar in 2024. He has ongoing, overlapping, and informal studies in urbanism, mindfulness, and place-based organizing via University of Orange faculty including Mindy Fullilove, Robert Sember, Dominic Moulden, Marisela Gomez, Edgar Rivera Colón, Margaux Simmons, and Molly Rose Kaufman."

-Douglas Farrand Website (https://www.douglasfarrand.com/about)
3/10/2025

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Luke Martin is an experimental composer, performer, and writer living in Minneapolis, MN. He plays guitar and no-input mixing board, often with people in and around the Wandelweiser Group, and is part of the ensemble Ordinary Affects. Luke's work is mainly oriented toward thinking - particularly by way of silence as such - a positive relation between music and truth.

-Luke Martin Website (http://www.lukecmartin.com/about.html)
3/10/2025

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"J.P.A. Falzone is a keyboard player and vibraphonist, a composer and song writer. He is the coordinator of Providence Research Ensemble and Providence Keyboard Ensemble."

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"Teodora Stepancic, born in Belgrade Serbia. She studied piano and composition at the University of Arts in Belgrade and the Royal Conservatory in The Hague. Among her teachers are: Gilius van Bergeijk, Yannis Kyriakides, Martijn Padding, Louis Andriessen, Vlastimir Trajkovic, Dejan Stosic, Aleksandar Sandorov, Ljiljana Vukelja, Milica Vasiljevic.

She participated masterclasses for piano, composition, improvisation and electronic music, working with Paul Goulda, Eric Lesage, Kemal Gekic, Messiah Maiguashka, Peter Michael Hamel, Alvin Currin, Richard Ayres, Caliope Tsoupakis, David Toop, Kim Cascone, Ray Lee, Manos Tsangaris, William Forman.

Teodora Stepancic is active as composer, pianist, performer and improviser and collaborated with ASKO Ensemble, Orkest de ereprijes, Holland Symfonia, Netherlandse Blazers Ensemble, PreArt Soloists (Switzerland) etc. She is member and co-founder of may ensembles: ensemble Modelo62 (Holland), D€N HAAG A££$TAR$ €NS€MBL€ SZ group with Miguelangel Clerc and Grzegorz Marciniak und die Serbian Sound Youth mit Maja Lekovic und Svetlana Maras.

Teodora Stepancic has given converts in Holland, Serbia, Switzerland, Israel, Lithuania, UK, Bosnia and Hercegovina, Macedonia, Albania etc., on the festivals such as Gaudeamus Music Week, Dag in de branding, November music, Noordelijk film festival, BBC Proms (London), Process (Vilnius), Internetional review of composers, KOMA (Belgrade)."

-Dumpf (https://dumpf.com/en/edition/teodora-stepancic/)
3/10/2025

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Track Listing:



1. OA (2018) 25:28

2. FG (2023) 26:39

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